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and sold in another…wares of the soul which are hawked about either

for the sake of instruction or amusement;…may not he who takes them

about and sells them be quite as truly called a merchant as he who

sells meats and drinks?

  Theaet。 To be sure he may。

  Str。 And would you not call by the same name him who buys up

knowledge and goes about from city to city exchanging his wares for

money?

  Theaet。 Certainly I should。

  Str。 Of this merchandise of the soul; may not one part be fairly

termed the art of display? And there is another part which is

certainly not less ridiculous; but being a trade in learning must be

called by some name germane to the matter?

  Theaet。 Certainly。

  Str。 The latter should have two names;…one descriptive of the sale

of the knowledge of virtue; and the other of the sale of other kinds

of knowledge。

  Theaet。 Of course。

  Str。 The name of art…seller corresponds well enough to the latter;

but you must try and tell me the name of the other。

  Theaet。 He must be the Sophist; whom we are seeking; no other name

can possibly be right。

  Str。 No other; and so this trader in virtue again turns out to be

our friend the Sophist; whose art may now be traced from the art of

acquisition through exchange; trade; merchandise; to a merchandise

of the soul which is concerned with speech and the knowledge of

virtue。

  Theaet。 Quite true。

  Str。 And there may be a third reappearance of him;…for he may have

settled down in a city; and may fabricate as well as buy these same

wares; intending to live by selling them; and he would still 

be called

a Sophist?

  Theaet。 Certainly。

  Str。 Then that part of acquisitive art which exchanges; and of

exchange which either sells a man's own productions or retails those

of others; as the case may be; and in either way sells the knowledge

of virtue; you would again term Sophistry?

  Theaet。 I must; if I am to keep pace with the argument。

  Str。 Let us consider once more whether there may not be yet

another aspect of sophistry。

  Theaet。 What is it?

  Str。 In the acquisitive there was a subdivision of the combative

or fighting art。

  Theaet。 There was。

  Str。 Perhaps we had better divide it。

  Theaet。 What shall be the divisions?

  Str。 There shall be one division of the competitive; and another

of the pugnacious。

  Theaet。 Very good。

  Str。 That part of the pugnacious which is contest of 

bodily strength

may be properly called by some such name as violent。

  Theaet。 True。

  Str。 And when the war is one of words; it may be termed 

controversy?

  Theaet。 Yes。

  Str。 And controversy may be of two kinds。

  Theaet。 What are they?

  Str。 When long speeches are answered by long speeches; and there

is public discussion about the just and unjust; that is forensic

controversy。

  Theaet。 Yes。

  Str。 And there is a private sort of controversy; which is cut up

into questions and answers; and this is commonly called disputation?

  Theaet。 Yes; that is the name。

  Str。 And of disputation; that sort which is only a discussion

about contracts; and is carried on at random; and without rules…art;

is recognized by the reasoning faculty to be a distinct 

class; but has

hitherto had no distinctive name; and does not deserve to receive

one from us。

  Theaet。 No; for the different sorts of it are too minute and

heterogeneous。

  Str。 But that which proceeds by rules of art to dispute about

justice and injustice in their own nature; and about things in

general; we have been accustomed to call argumentation (Eristic)?

  Theaet。 Certainly。

  Str。 And of argumentation; one sort wastes money; and the other

makes money。

  Theaet。 Very true。

  Str。 Suppose we try and give to each of these two classes a name。

  Theaet。 Let us do so。

  Str。 I should say that the habit which leads a man to neglect his

own affairs for the pleasure of conversation; of which the style is

far from being agreeable to the majority of his hearers; may 

be fairly

termed loquacity: such is my opinion。

  Theaet。 That is the common name for it。

  Str。 But now who the other is; who makes money out of private

disputation; it is your turn to say。

  Theaet。 There is only one true answer: he is the wonderful

Sophist; of whom we are in pursuit; and who reappears again for the

fourth time。

  Str。 Yes; and with a fresh pedigree; for he is the money…making

species of the Eristic; disputatious; controversial。 pugnacious;

combative; acquisitive family; as the argument has already proven。

  Theaet。 Certainly。

  Str。 How true was the observation that he was a many…sided animal;

and not to be caught with one hand; as they say!

  Theaet。 Then you must catch him with two。

  Str。 Yes; we must; if we can。 And therefore let us try; another

track in our pursuit of him: You are aware that there are certain

menial occupations which have names among servants?

  Theaet。 Yes; there are many such; which of them do you mean?

  Str。 I mean such as sifting; straining; winnowing; threshing。

  Theaet。 Certainly。

  Str。 And besides these there are a great many more; such 

as carding;

spinning; adjusting the warp and the woof; and thousands of similar

expressions are used in the arts。

  Theaet。 Of what are they to be patterns; and what are we 

going to do

with them all?

  Str。 I think that in all of these there is implied a notion of

division。

  Theaet。 Yes。

  Str。 Then if; as I was saying; there is one art which includes all

of them; ought not that art to have one name?

  Theaes。 And what is the name of the art?

  Str。 The art of discerning or discriminating。

  Theaet。 Very good。

  Str。 Think whether you cannot divide this。

  Theaet。 I should have to think a long while。

  Str。 In all the previously named processes either like has been

separated from like or the better from the worse。

  Theaet。 I see now what you mean。

  Str; There is no name for the first kind of separation; of the

second; which throws away the worse and preserves the better; I do

know a name。

  Theaet。 What is it?

  Str。 Every discernment or discrimination of that kind; as I have

observed; is called a purification。

  Theaet。 Yes; that is the usual expression。

  Str。 And any one may see that purification is of two kinds。

  Theaet。 Perhaps so; if he were allowed time to think; but I do not

see at this moment。

  Str。 There are many purifications of bodies which may with 

propriety

be comprehended under a single name。

  Theaet。 What are they; and what is their name?

  Str。 There is the purification of living bodies in their inward

and in their outward parts; of which the former is duly effected by

medicine and gymnastic; the latter by the not very dignified art of

the bath…man; and there is the purification of inanimate 

substances…to

this the arts of fulling and of furbishing in general attend in a

number of minute particulars; having a variety of names which are

thought ridiculous。

  Theaet。 Very true。

  Str。 There can be no doubt that they are thought ridiculous;

Theaetetus; but then the dialectical art never considers whether the

benefit to be derived from the purge is greater or less than that to

be derived from the sponge; and has not more interest in the one

than in the other; her endeavour is to know what is and is 

not kindred

in all arts; with a view to the acquisition of intelligence; and

having this in view; she honours them all alike; and when she makes

comparisons; she counts one of them not a whit more ridiculous than

another; nor does she esteem him who adduces as his example of

hunting; the general's art; at all more decorous than another who

cites that of the vermin…destroyer; but only as the greater

pretender of the two。 And as to your question concerning the name

which was to comprehend all these arts of purification; whether of

animate or inanimate bodies; the art of dialectic is in no wise

particular about fine words; if she maybe only allowed to have a

general name for all other purifications; binding them up 

together and

separating them off from the purification of the soul or intellect。

For this is the purification at which she wants to arrive; 

and this we

should understand to be her aim。

  Theaet。 Yes; I understand; and I agree that there are two sorts of

purification and that one of them is concerned with the 

soul; and that

there is another which is concerned with the body。

  Str。 Excellent; and now listen to what I am going to say; 

and try to

divide further the first of the two。

  Theaet。 Whatever line of division you suggest; I will endeavour to

assist you。

  Str。 Do we admit that virtue is distinct from vice in the soul?

  Theaet。 Certainly。

  Str。 And purification was to leave the good and to cast 

out whatever

is bad?

  Theaet。 True。

  Str。 Then any taking away of evil from the soul may be properly

called purification?

  Theaet。 Yes。

  Str。 And in the soul there are two kinds of evil。

  Theaet。 What are they?

  Str。 The one may be compared to disease in the body; the other to

deformity。

  Theaet。 I do not und

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